Friday, January 15, 2010

How DOES same sex marriage defile traditional marriage, and break down family values?

Sensible answers only, pls.How DOES same sex marriage defile traditional marriage, and break down family values?
Cooties, Babe.





Cooties.How DOES same sex marriage defile traditional marriage, and break down family values?
People are confusing marriage with procreation. Marriage and procreation are mutually exclusive. If it weren't, no unwed couples could reproduce. Likewise, there would be no childless marriages.





Proponents of traditional marriage don't see that two people of the same sex can love and support each other in exactly the same way as two people of the opposite sex. They rely on their outdated ideas of woman being created for man and, quite frankly, they're a little too hung up on the sex issue.





They argue that because only a man and woman have what they consider compatible physiology, and homosexuality is obviously all about sex (couldn't possibly be anything else, right?), there's no way homosexuality can be natural. Of course, anything we don't consider natural must be eradicated and outlawed.





Proponents of traditional family values don't see that two people of the same sex can love and raise a child in exactly the same way as two people of the opposite sex. They rely on their outdated ideas that only a man and a woman together can raise a healthy, happy child.





I've also heard arguments that homosexuality = pedophile, which enrages me. The blatant ignorance of such a statement just makes me want to vomit.
It doesn't. There are five states that allow same sex marriage. My marriage and family so far are just fine.





EDIT--Apostle: My wife and I cannot have children. We have to adopt. Does that mean we are not a family?





EDIT--From the APA:





';This seven-member team of psychologists with a combination of both scientific expertise in family and couple relations and professional expertise with lesbian, gay, and bisexual populations summarized the research that discrimination and prejudice based on sexual orientation detrimentally affects the psychological, physical, social and economic well-being of lesbian, gay and bisexual individuals, that same-sex couples are remarkably similar to heterosexual couples, and that parenting effectiveness and the adjustment, development and psychological well-being of children is unrelated to parental sexual orientation.';





I will continue to post this until it sinks in.
It doesn't.





The fundies are just whipping out fake arguments so they don't sound as if the Bible is the only reason they're against it.





By the way, to some of the people answering: I plan on getting marriage but I don't plan on having kids. Does that mean you have a problem with that, too? Furthermore, homosexual couples have the ability to adopt children and form a family of their own.





And for your information, polygamy is the most popular form of marriage in the world and humans are naturally inclined to form polygamist marriages. So, clearly, the ';nuclear family'; isn't the most ';traditional'; form of marriage.
It depends up what your definition ';Family Values'; are.


Different cultures have different values, even the Democratic and Republican parties have different definitions of what are ';Family Values'; are.





Before saying it infringes on ';family values'; we have to define the true definition of what family values are.
I have no idea. It's not like gays haven't already been forming long-term relationships, buying houses together, and even adopting children. That's been going on for several generations now. How filing a joint 1044 tax form in April is going to destroy a hetero couple living next door, I have no clue.





Claiming that it goes against the Bible is not an answer, because we still have millions of Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists, and other non-Christians in the country who have gotten married. They are legally no less married than a couple who has a Christian wedding.





As for ';defiling traditional marriage';, well I suppose that's also done when a woman decides to keep her maiden name, gets a divorce, gets married after a divorce, decides to not have children, or a couple decides to get married in Las Vegas by an Elvis impersonator.
Yes, If marriage was intended for same sex they should be able to conceive children if they are healthy. It is unnatural. Why do Homosexuals need sperm and eggs?





gay adoption? No, I believe children need both feminine and masculine role models to be well adjusted. I know there are many single parents and these children suffer as well





is it perverted? Yes, The anus was designed to let feces out, not insert things in. Hepatitis and other diseases arise from anal sex.


I know not all Homosexuals have anal intercourse, but if homosexuality is normal why don't two penises or two vaginas fit up properly like the penis and vagina fit. Why is it that sperm from one, and eggs from the other naturally produce children. Not the case in homosexuality.
If people of the same sex want to deal with the stress and headache of planning a wedding then fine, help boost our economy. And if they want to shell out thousands of dollars to get a divorce later on, fine by me. That doesn't bother me, the only problem I'd have is if they decided to have or adopt kids. A child needs a mother and a father, not two mommies or daddies, that's just confusing. A mother and a father provide balance to a child's life. I should know, my best friend's boyfriend grew up with two mommies and he's not exactly the most stable person mentally or emotionally.
Well, you will probably get quite a few fundies on here quoting 8 specific bible passages called the ';clobber passages';. These are their biblical ';proof'; for homosexuality as a sin. Other than that there will be little to no argument that connects the ';immorality'; of homosexuality to the destruction of traditional marriage. Perhaps someone will say something along the lines of ';what will they want next? They'll be marrying animals soon';. I have asked this question multiple times of many religious people and never gotten a logical answer. If a two thousand year old book is that only defense for the lack of equality of gays and lesbians in America, I say it's weak tea at best.
because traditional marriage is between a man and a woman to have to of the same sex married perverts it because they are not marrying for pro creation and it is only the first step just like living together in adultery having children and not getting married it is a perversion of marriage in the opposite direction homes are more stable when children are raised by both a man and a woman, it gives them the perspective of both sides where in a gay relationship it is one sided.
Well, since traditional marriage is between a man and a woman ( that's what TRADITIONAL marriage means since in the history of mankind there has never been marriage of the traditional sense outside of a man and a woman until recently) I would think that two people of the same sex would defile it since it is not natural and a child should have parents of opposite genders not the same.
First of all same sex and marriage are mutually exclusive.





If I smoke cocaine, how does that hurt my family and the community?





I like to do it, if have a lot of feelings towards it and I believe it likes me too.





I don't care if it messes up my kids (which I can't have because it is impossible) - I don't care if it messesses up my mind, spirit, soul and body. I don't care if I hurt my mom, dad and stop them from having any grandchildren of their own to play with. No - I am not selfish and evil, and misled. Oh how Satan decieves and makes the naive take his bait.





I like to have hundreds of women, although I am married to my wife, but that's OK because I have feelings. No - I won't hurt my wife. She's got to get with my values. No - I am not selfish.





Hell is full of people who act on their feelings - whatever causes your messed up feelings, you do not have to act on it.





A cocaine addict goes to rehab for help and healing and deliverance - it's the same thing.





Just because you have feeling does not mean it is who you are or was meant to be.





Love you
Because God created sex between a man and a women. And it makes sense too. That's the only way we reproduce. Marriage is supposed to be a very special thing because it says that the two become one. And i just don't see how that works with same sex. I KNOW i'm going to get thumbs down for this one. :(
Traditional Marriage is doing a good enough job breaking down family values all by itself. Gay marriage isn't responsible for breaking down the family, the 45% divorce rate is handling that nicely





PS, Disciple, you should be slapped silly with a grammar textbook
HOW IT DOES'NT ????!!!!





Edit: advocates of same sex marriage, please answer this.


how could they be born if their father married to a man or their mother married a woman?and how would it feel to them if their father being called as gay or mother as lesbian?


a silly question and so am i feeling even more silly to answer it.no offense...but ask for sensible answer for sensible questions.
you want to know something about 40 years ago interracial marriage would do the same thing well it did not i have read some of the answers on here and most of them are about procreating i have to disagree to all of them life is not about having children i mean what about us heterosexual couples who can't have kids my wife can't so should we be married i mean we love each other and i thought that is what marriage was about love their is no such thing as traditional marriage or family values or that would mean all people are the same and no children do not need both parents you can have male and female role model but it does not have to be mom or dad
Traditional Marriages in the bible means a man raping many women and making them his wives.





So yes, same sex marriage is usually 1 on 1. That's not traditional





Traditional marriages should be between a man and many women like in the bible.
Well, lets say that a gay, married couple moves in next door to me. (This only works when they're married, mind you.) And lets say they cause little particles of teh gay to be lying about on their and all adjacent properties. And lets say I go out in my socks one morning to get my WSJ. It'll get all ground into my socks, Babe - GROUND into my socks!! My definitely not effeminate husband will never forgive me for having to wash THAT out and we'll have to do the tragic divorce thing :(
The most sensible answer that I can give you. Is go ask The Adopted Children.





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R.A. Torrey.
It doesn't but what ever decision they make in the end i want grand children. In traditional marriage There's a need for children. Do you notice how they make the woman feel when she can't make children?
People who think one man one woman is ';traditional'; are fooling themselves anyway. Tradition is polygamy in most parts of the world.
Traditional marriage used to be selling your daughter like property. This consensual froo froo love crap is a joke. Our ancestors would be turning in their graves.
because in any traditional marriage the man is a closeted homosexual


and if gay marriage is legalized he'll run of with the gardener
It doesn't.





Rodney H: Do heterosexuals not engage in anal sex? How about the kinky heterosexual males!?
Same sex marriage cannot make a family!
It doesn't.





Some people just can't discern a credible threat from something which offends them.
I'm very interested in seeing the answers...
because the Californian pageant queen said so.


Lolz.
Because God made two sexes to come together for the purpose of procreation and He put love and compassion between them. The family is the root of society, if the family values are corrupt then the entire society will become corrupt. God put a responsibility on the husband and wife to raise good offspring for the services of the society at large.





Humans were not created to follow their own desires and lusts, this is the role of animals.
It teaches formidable young people that a perversion is not really a perversion, but simply and ';alternative lifestyle';





The fact of the matter is that most sexually transmitted diseases are transmitted by homosexuals.





When to men can have biological children naturally then I will listen to you.
Family values would have to consist of a family first..... same sex marriage cannot procreate.....No family unit.

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