the church condemns fun - periodDoes the church condemn sex for fun during marriage?
%26gt;%26gt;In other words if a couple is married, does the church say it's okay to have sex that doesn't intend on creating children?%26lt;%26lt;
Yes, the Church says it's okay:
';The sexual activity, in which husband and wife are intimately and chastely united with one another, through which human life is transmitted, is, as the recent Council recalled, 'noble and worthy.' It does not, moreover, cease to be legitimate even when, for reasons independent of their will, it is foreseen to be infertile.'; (Humanae Vitae 11)
';If therefore there are well-grounded reasons for spacing births, arising from the physical or psychological condition of husband or wife, or from external circumstances, the Church teaches that married people may then take advantage of the natural cycles immanent in the reproductive system and engage in marital intercourse only during those times that are infertile, thus controlling birth in a way which does not in the least offend the moral principles which We have just explained.'; (Humanae Vitae 16)
Have you considered the words of Paul at 1 Corinthians 7?
3 Let the husband render to [his] wife her due; but let the wife also do likewise to [her] husband. 4 The wife does not exercise authority over her own body, but her husband does; likewise, also, the husband does not exercise authority over his own body, but his wife does. 5 Do not be depriving each other [of it], except by mutual consent for an appointed time, that YOU may devote time to prayer and may come together again, that Satan may not keep tempting YOU for YOUR lack of self-regulation.
There the natural desire is addressed and not in terms of just procreation. If a church condemns sex, it is wrong, since it is a gift from God.
I don't know what ';the church'; says, but the idea in all theism (i.e. the belief in a Supreme Being) is that we are perfect when we are acting to please God and imperfect when we are acting to please the senses. To have sexual intercourse for the purpose of reproducing and, subsequently, raising those children to also be God conscious is the spiritual ideal. On the other hand, to have sex for sense gratification (including the mind) is to be acting imperfectly because one is cut off from God. In other words, all acts ought to culminate in pleasing God, according to the theistic worldview. Trying to enjoy apart from God is the very definition of fallen. It is what Adam and Eve did when they fell - ate the forbidden fruit, thus creating a situation where they enjoyed apart from God.
Mind you that I am not a Christian, yet this philosophy follows whether one is a Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, etc. It is anchored on the concept that there exists a supreme being to whom we are all dependent and in whom we are all perfected.
*Edit:
';1Co 7:3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
1Co 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
1Co 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.';
You better hope, then, that you marry someone who understands the spiritual application of sex life.
Not having power of ones own body is a good tact for keeping spouses from cheating on each other. However, it also means that if ones spouse wants him or her to engage in sexual activity with another, he or she must do it. So you better hope your spouse is not a swinger.
I receive thumbs down because some people's attachment to sense gratification is greater than their attachment to God.
The only thing that the bible teaches on this matter is that we are to abstain from our wives and husbands for reasons of prayer and fasting. i.e. if it is Lent or _you and your spouse consent_ to a another special time of spiritual struggle - then it is appropriate to stop having relations.
1 Corinthians 7:3-5
3Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
5Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
Apart from that - the ';enjoyment'; part of relations is not addressed.
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In the Old Testament (OT) it was very important for Jews to have children, as it was their immortality and each child born could be the Messiah. It was also a sign of God's favor.
In the New Testament (NT) children are not important in that way. Virginity dedicated to God is prized and highly-regarded. Life-long abstinence from relationships of a physical nature are considered honorable (e.g. monks and nuns).
I would hazard a guess that “relations just for the purpose of begetting children” is a throwback to Judaic custom and not part of the Christian teaching.
Hebrews 13:4 ';Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled...';
The Bible doesn't. The Bible says to have lots of sex.
1Co 7:3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
1Co 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
1Co 7:5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;Oh please. The Bible says to beat your wife within an inch of her life%26lt;%26lt;%26lt;
Sorry, but you are ';mistaken.';
This is not a matter of what the church says, this is a matter of what the Bible says.
Nothing in all of the Bible says that sex in a marriage, for any other purpose than having children, is wrong.
So be fruitful, my friend. Read the New Testament for yourself. 1 Corinthians, Ephesians, and 1 Peter are a few of the greatest books in New Testament that talk about marriage.
God made man and woman to enjoy each other sexually in a marriage. Not just for procreation.
Hope this helps. -Follower of Jesus Christ
Pretty much if it's fun, they condemn it.
Well, if contraception is a sin, then I'd assume that sex for fun is one as well, assuming that you are using contraception.
Masturbation is a ';sin'; too...
next thing you know, changing your sheets will be a sin
Ridiculous right?
i dont know bout chatholicism..lol..but yes..married people know that sex with a spous4e is the best sex of all..total intimacy, trust and love..the ability to express it when you have a bond with someone is better than any one nighter you can imagine...
';Every sperm is sacred
Every sperm is great
If a sperm gets wasted
God gets quite irate.';
The Catholic Church does. The Pope says that sex is for procreation.
they don't currently. but has periodically though history. but it goes back and forth much the same way that social morality swings back and forth.
Oh please. The Bible says to beat your wife within an inch of her life. Anyone who actually listens to that storybook is severely deluded and even borderline insane.
I thought the bible and Christians both condemned fun period.
No way... God is all for sex and intimacy within the boundaries of marriage! He meant it to be enjoyed!
The church shouldn't run your life when you are marry.
Depends on which church. I am sure you can find one. It is ok though, between you and me.
Some do, some don't! My question is what would church be doing in your bedroom?
Just Haaaave sex!
If it did I wonder how many people would comply.
Which church?
Sex for fun is all I've ever had. What else is there?
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