Sunday, January 17, 2010

What are the arguments against gay marriage?

I am not gay. I really just don't understand why people are against it. Please, give me some serious arguments for or against.What are the arguments against gay marriage?
I'm not gay but i am all for them we can be happy why not them... its against god or what you people think are god but some people don't believe in him her or whatever not to mention the world already over populated with same sex marriage less people coming out and more adopted and out of the orphanage isn't that a plus?What are the arguments against gay marriage?
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Schools have been segregating boys and girls for years! It isn't because of gay rights.

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Here are the arguments against it.





#1, it's wrong. God says 1 man 1 woman, not two men or two women, that's the interpretation anyways.





#2, the rights married couples have for things like taxes and medical insurance will somehow mess things up for the rest of us.





#3, it'll lead to things like people marrying dogs, pedophiles getting equal rights and stuff like that.





Those are the arguments I've seen, and none of them really stand up to reason. If anyone has another argument, I'll gladly hear it.





#4, higher use of drugs and alcohol and more sexual permiscuity among homosexuals.





#5, marriage is a religious thing, and should be kept that way.





I should note that personally, I'm against all state-sponsored marriage, not just homosexual marriage.
It's a societal argument based on religion: ';Marriage'; is defined already. We don't want to change the definition. Gays have the legal equivalent of marriage, called ';Domestic Partnership';. There's no rights issue here, since the rights are already present. This is all over the definition of a word.





Speaking of rights, why can't I marry a ***** or a hoe? In the case of the *****, the genders are right, and the dog has no civil rights. Aren't my rights to marry her protected? Ok, you can make the argument that the ***** would be discommoded. What about the hoe, then? The hoe is pure property. There's nothing to be discommoded. Why can't I marry it? The answer, of course, is that that's not what ';marriage'; is.
Here are just a few good arguments as to why it's not a good idea. God bless.





* One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners .





* One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year . The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime.





* Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting .





* Many homosexuals don't pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: ';Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior'; .





* Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. ';Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight-forward shouting matches characterized their presence'; . Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels ';subjective distress';) .





* Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States . They make up only 1-2% of the population.





* Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the ';gay bowel syndrome'; (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus .





* 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization .





* 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics .





* Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film ';The Castro';, one minute stands) . Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to ';cruisy areas'; and have anonymous sex.





* 78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs .





* Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, ';Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities'; .





* Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, ';30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals'; .





* 50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals .





* Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, ';Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person'; . For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality.





* It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us.
I'm against gay marriage because it SEGREGATES men and women! Look at what's happening at the same time gay marriage is getting legalized. Some states (like Georgia) are proposing that schools have an option of putting boys and girls in separate classrooms and I'm vehemently opposed to that proposal as well. When men and women are separated, this creates a climate that could foster gender stereotypes and threaten gender equality. Heterosexual marriage promotes gender equality by combining a man and a woman together. Secondly, as our society has become more accepting of homosexual relationships, guess what's been happening at the same time? Drugs are circulating widely throughout the country, more kids are dropping out of school, there are more teen pregnancies, greater spread of STDs, etc., Many of these problems have been found in children growing up with fathers or with single mothers. It's clear that the traditional nuclear family has always been the foundation of societal stability and we must do everything in our power to promote that source of stability, including TOLERATING, but NOT ENDORSING, same sex relationships.
Marriage is an institution for thousands of years





So many of you care about '' progress '' and being '' liberal '' that you tend to dismiss the Great Ancient civilizations like Ancient Greece or Ancient Rome , religions like Christianity or Judaism , history as a whole and so much more





Marriage is not a civil right


It never has been and never will be





It is not a human right


That is a big exagerration





Google '' GayPatriot ''





He's a gay conservative and he blogs


The dialogues with the gay left in his blog





See his writings





Do NOT trust Andrew Sullivan as a gay conservative


He's a liberal , went over the cliff and has not come back to his senses )=





Marriage is not like race


It is not like African slavery liberation





It has nothing to do with race


A man is a man and a woman is a woman regardless of race





Marriage existed BEFORE African slavery





It has to do with GENDER


NOT race





It has to do with men and women as a whole


Not Caucasians , Africans , Native Americans , Latinos or Asians





Marriage existed before the official birth of Christianity





It was in Ancient Greece , Ancient Rome , Persia , China , Japan , Middle East , Africa and so much more





The '' nuclear family '' aka Father , Mother %26amp; Children in EVERY single society it existed





The '' extended '' family includes aunts , uncles , cousins , grandparents and what not





Societies which hated , were indifferent or loved homosexuality


It didn't matter





Marriage was there





I'm against gay marriage because gay marriage supporters are blind to reality , history , logic , ethics and especially biology





They argue that gay marriage is EXACTLY the same as traditional marriage





That is false





That is like saying '' OMG! Homosexuality is the SAME as Heterosexuality! ''





This has nothing to do with bigotry


These people have no rational basis





They look at homosexuality or they look at heterosexuality and see no difference in their genetic makeup





One has to be totally entrenched not to see that they have nothing in common





It's like denying gender differences





One can argue whether homosexuality is innate or a choice ( and quite frankly I believe it's 50/50 nature and nurture ) but that is not the point





The point is that it WILL affect marriage





Just like OTHER forms have affected marriage





Divorce affected marriage


Single mothers affected marriage


Out of wedlock affected marriage


Pre marital sex affected marriage


And so much more





Marriage is to BIND humanity


Men AND Women





Sun and Moon


Day and Night


Fire and Water


Men and Women





Gay marriage supporters see '' Oh well! I just don't want to discriminate them based on gender! ''





Really?





I have a question for them


After gay marriage is legalized what then





What is SO special about TWO people together ?


Why not threesome marriage ?





Don't they discriminate base on NUMBER ?





Gay marriage is a joke and marriage is already a joke thanks to many other things but in no way does it mean ''It's already bad! So let's make it WORSE!''





Are these people out of their minds?





That's like saying ''There is already fire in the house... let's put some gasoline on it and make an explosion!''





You know the BIGGEST thing ?


Gays were AGAINST marriage about I don't know





20 to 30 years ago





That's right


They thought marriage was conformist and called heterosexuals '' breeders ''





But NOW they want what they despise ?





Google '' Gays against Gay Marriage ''


Google '' GayPatriot ''





What gays seek is NOT the institution of marriage


They seek the BENEFITS of it





Here's way I propose ( I'm a conservative with libertarian leanings )





Get the federal government OUT of marriage COMPLETELY





Make CIVIL UNIONS recognizied NATIONWIDE for heterosexuals AND homosexuals alike





It will be the PRIMARY choice





The second option would be to ADD the institution of marriage to the civil unions with the requirement that it MUST be between a man and a woman





Social issues should become a STATE/LOCAL issue


NO to BIG GOVERNMENT





Repeal D.O.M.A. , Roe vs Wade and DADT





You know why marriage should be between a man and a woman ? Because out of that union children come forward





A man and a woman become one flesh


You see both genders together





And I'm sorry even though homosexuals ARE diverse compared to heterosexuals to me gay marriage is one of the most gender segregated things I have ever seen





Just like so many other things affected marriage so will this





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Marriage is a sacrament, or that was its original intent. A sacrament is sacred. It is a way that humans interact with the divine. Divinely created to go be fruitful and multiply. Homosexual unions are sterile.





If people want to form partnerships, so be it, but calling it marriage is a sacrilege. A world without the sacred is like a world without beauty.





We have fallen for the evil assault on the sanctity of the very wombs in which we all spent the first few months of our existence. We call it good, necessary, %26amp; freedom to go and chop up and put down the disposal, the most vulnerable and helpless of our species. Now at the insistence of a few we are being asked to give up the sanctity of marriage too? What will be next? really? Smut store owners insisting that they should have the right to operate anywhere they want? Pedophiles already have operations that are working toward making sex with minors legal if its ';consensual.'; NAMBLA (National Man Boy Love Association) Don't look it up though- you might end up with child porn spam and get arrested.
Just lame stuff to justify oppressing a portion of the population. The good news is, the race was close on the issue meaning more people are warming up to the idea. In a decade or so people will look back on this and shake their heads in disbelief that it was ever illegal to have a same sex marriage.
I know the arguments that people put forward... but it makes no sense to me.....





and IF it's about their sex life.... well there are straight couples that engage in THE SAME activities...


oral sex and anal sex exists in many hetrosexual relationships ... so why do people get all hot under the collar and disgusted by homosexual sex?





how many anti-gay men would knock back a female ( their wife/girlfriend/mistress) performing oral sex on them... the ACT is the same.


and there are straight men that like their partners to *use the other place* perhaps even as a method of birth control...( i wonder how many of those men insult gay men for the same thing)
I'm straight and all for it, but I can understand the opposition. It's old school. Protect the precious few decent things left in society. Marriage is a bond of a man and a woman before God...leave it alone.





Personally, I think any commitment like that is beautiful.
Some people hate freedom and religious groups are making a killing off gays.





It's truly a feat of unconscious projection that allows Christian groups to blame gays for soaring divorce and destroying marriage when they're banned from do so.
Con: It'll ruin marriage for everyone!





Christian Con: It'll ruin the sanctity of marriage and take all the fun out of lusting over dudes.





Non-Con: Don't you mean divorce?
The government shouldn't be involved in marriage at all, hetero or homo. Whoever invented the marriage license is the one who made this mess in the first place.
gays should accept ';civil unions'; with all of the rights as married heterosexual couples. They would have had that by now.
Religion... Our all mighty gaseous vertebrae called ';god'; is against it ...per Sarah the Plain...LOL
We're different for a reason. Producing offspring requires a man and a woman.

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