Sunday, January 17, 2010

Why do religions forbid sex before marriage and porn?

This is something I think about from time to time. My question is: why is premarital sex and porn considered immoral?





For example, if two people are in a committed relationship, but not married, and have sex, why is that considered immoral?





Also, if a single guy watches porn, why is that immoral? Is it preferable for this man to find a wife just for sex?





An answer such as ';God said so'; isn't going to cut it. Is there any real societal damage (besides unwanted children and disease) that these activities cause?Why do religions forbid sex before marriage and porn?
Jesus Christ never had a problem with premarital sex.





It wasn't until the self-proclaimed apostle Paul declared fornication a sin through Pauline Christianity that Christians began their quest for purity. This puritan movement was escalated by Pope Clementine because of his failed marriage. Pope Clementine and the apostle Paul were two very lonely prudes whose only quest in life was for the rest of mankind to share in the misery of their celibacy.





In the Old Testament, the only women required to be virgins are the brides of priests. All other women are free to fornicate without the persecution of sin. All men and priests can fornicate without the persecution of sin.





Adam and Eve were never married and openly enjoyed the pleasures of premarital sex without condemnation for over 950 years.





Become a Gnostic Christian, and you shall have the freedom to fornicate in the divine sexual orgies of beautiful people. Amen.Why do religions forbid sex before marriage and porn?
It's a form of emotional control. Sexual energy is a *huge* amount of energy. If you can control someone sexually, then you have control of them at the most basic level. You have control of their most basic drive: to reproduce.





I will get a lot of thumbs-down for this, but the fact of the matter is that this form of control is very unconscious. If you channel someone's sexual energy toward another goal--be it political, religious, or community, or even a private goal, then you've harnessed a huge amount of energy that you can control.





';1984'; presents a fairly good picture of how this process works.





EDIT--Let's put in other terms: people worship better if their sexual energy is channeled into worship. Those religious experiences that you see and hear about: I bet you dollars to pesos that is psychosexual energy. Occultists have known and practiced that sort of psychological manipulation for centuries.
You see, you already knew the answer! - unwanted children, and disease. But also, emotional pain when people become attached to someone who isn't committed; broken homes. God wants only to protect us from these things.


As for porn - it twists the mind, encourages promiscuity, can destroy families - which in turn harms society at large. It is degrading for all concerned - those who earn a living at it, and those who encourage it by watching.
God said it because he knows what truly makes us happy, instead of what we think would make us happy. The fact that God said so, is enough for me; he gives everyone a choice as to whether or not to believe it.





Marriage is a sacrament to me and deserves to be honored (which means no unfaithfulness in any way) - it's much more than a legal way to have sex.





Even so, unwanted children and disease are pretty good reasons as well. It's possible God knew what would happen, so he set up rules and regulations to protect us.





But he also gave us free will.





Society needs to think before they act, instead of thinking only about short term gratification (if it feels good, do it).
';God said so'; is good enough for religious people.





For example, you think something is wrong, ';if it hurts another human';, right? Well, religion takes it a step further. There are some things that are considered ';sacred';. Disobeying ';sacred'; laws don't always hurt someone physically or emotionally, but it hurts them spriritually.
Well, ';religions'; covers a huge number of cultures and belief systems. You should really narrow it down. Of course, then you give us ';God said so';, so I'm assuming you're aiming this question at Christians.





One thing you need to understand is that religious people have this thing called FAITH. That means, we believe in things we can't necessarily see, touch, explain, or fully understand. That includes commandments from God. So saying we don't do something because ';God says so'; is a completely legitimate answer.





So the number one reason that premarital sex/porn is a sin is (whether you like it or not): God says so.





It's also sinful because sex is something created by God when He created mankind. Since He created it, He gets to set the rules, and the rules are ALWAYS for our welfare and benefit. Sex is something to be shared between a husband and wife alone. Sex is not recreational; it's sacred and powerful. It creates intense physical and emotional bonds, and can wreak havoc (STD's, unwanted pregnancies, abortions, broken hearts, ';baggage';) when it's not kept within those boundaries.
Porn is very addictive. It can ruin and has ruined many lives, marriages and families.





Premarital sex is why our world is in chaos. Abortions, single parents, abused children, unwanted children, child slave trade, prostitution all come from premarital sex. Wake up and stop watching MTV.
Why? Because there is always a chance that the relationship will not work out. Sure even though you can still break up after you get married, usually the relationship will last long and the couple won't fight over it, because Christians stand for peace. Or I think.





Well I think porn's just sexist (although some denominations certainly do stand for sexism) and uses girls as objects, which is lust (I think that's what it means), and that is a sin.
How many people do you know that say that there in love with and sleep with them then a little while later they are with someone else. porn and premarital sex rob us of God's plan for sex and marriage. God isn't against sex. Just sex outside of marriage. Read I Kissed Dating Goodbye or Boy Meets Girl. they both have a lot to say on this issue.
If you dont think its morally wrong to watch porn, then it doesnt matter what others think. A lot of people watch porn so either there are alot of liars or it isnt morrally wrong. Not my morals i have 2 children out of wedlock they arent baptised and they wont be and i watch porn. It is morally wrong to kill someone not to watch porn. some might argue its morally wrong to have children when half the world cant feed itself.
The sexual mores of modern America come from sexually repressed evangelical/fundamentalist Christians who wish to control every aspect of human life.





There is no god to care or do anything about it and their Jesus was as interested in sex as any other normal human.





Taoist/Atheist
As a christian i wonder the same..i enjoy sex...idk about porn but unwanted pregnancies, abortion and vd's can cause alot of heartache.i believe God forbids this because He loves us and wants to save us from heartache.
The porn I know is addictive liek a drug and why BRING iT INTO A MARRIAGE WHERE YOUR KIDS COULD RUN INTO IT, AND PORN SEEN BY A YOUNG KID IS NOT HEALTHY!!!, I SAW PRON AT A YOUNG AGE AND IT WAS NOT GOOD FOR ME!!!!


GUYS ARE STUPID AND BRING THAT CRAP INTO THE HOUSE AND THEN THE KIDS SEE IT!!!!
All these people talk about unwanted pregnancy and disease....


NEW INVENTION... its called a CONDOM. YA, guys were have you been? I actually know some married couples who have unwanted children too.
Not all religions forbid that. And only about, 40% of all christians think that.
Because unwanted children and disease are not good enough reasons for you?
';unwanted children and disease';





Uh........isn't that reason enough?
If you read the bible you'll understand
its this new thing called sin...
Gen 2:23 ';At last!'; Adam exclaimed. ';She is part of my own flesh and bone! She will be called `woman,' because she was taken out of a man.';


Gen 2:24 This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one.





Mat 19:9 And I tell you this, a man who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery--unless his wife has been unfaithful.';





Mat 19:4 ';Haven't you read the Scriptures?'; Jesus replied. ';They record that from the beginning `God made them male and female.'





Mat 19:5 And he said, `This explains why a man leaves his father and mother and is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one.'





Mat 19:6 Since they are no longer two but one, let no one separate them, for God has joined them together.';





1Cr 6:18 Run away from sexual sin! No other sin so clearly affects the body as this one does. For sexual immorality is a sin against your own body.





1Cr 6:19 Or don't you know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourself,


1Cr 6:20 for God bought you with a high price. So you must honor God with your body.





Job 31:11 For lust is a shameful sin, a crime that should be punished.





Mat 5:28 But I say, anyone who even looks at a woman with lust in his eye has already committed adultery with her in his heart.


Mat 5:29 So if your eye--even if it is your good eye--causes you to lust, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
God teaches us that God made man and woman to unite in a marriage...





Porn is bad for us because it employs lust and not love..and it changes the way we see our spouse...and our life...





Be patient...God will help you if you open your heart for Him...





John 14 (Contemporary English Version)





John 14


Jesus Is the Way to the Father





1Jesus said to his disciples, ';Don't be worried! Have faith in God and have faith in me. [a] 2There are many rooms in my Father's house. I wouldn't tell you this, unless it was true. I am going there to prepare a place for each of you. 3After I have done this, I will come back and take you with me. Then we will be together. 4You know the way to where I am going.'; 5Thomas said, ';Lord, we don't even know where you are going! How can we know the way?';





6';I am the way, the truth, and the life!'; Jesus answered. ';Without me, no one can go to the Father. 7If you had known me, you would have known the Father. But from now on, you do know him, and you have seen him.';





8Philip said, ';Lord, show us the Father. That is all we need.';





9Jesus replied:





Philip, I have been with you for a long time. Don't you know who I am? If you have seen me, you have seen the Father. How can you ask me to show you the Father? 10Don't you believe that I am one with the Father and that the Father is one with me? What I say isn't said on my own. The Father who lives in me does these things.





11Have faith in me when I say that the Father is one with me and that I am one with the Father. Or else have faith in me simply because of the things I do. 12I tell you for certain that if you have faith in me, you will do the same things that I am doing. You will do even greater things, now that I am going back to the Father. 13Ask me, and I will do whatever you ask. This way the Son will bring honor to the Father. 14I will do whatever you ask me to do.








The Holy Spirit Is Promised


15Jesus said to his disciples:





If you love me, you will do as I command. 16Then I will ask the Father to send you the Holy Spirit who will help [b] you and always be with you. 17The Spirit will show you what is true. The people of this world cannot accept the Spirit, because they don't see or know him. But you know the Spirit, who is with you and will keep on living in you. 18I won't leave you like orphans. I will come back to you. 19In a little while the people of this world won't be able to see me, but you will see me. And because I live, you will live. 20Then you will know that I am one with the Father. You will know that you are one with me, and I am one with you. 21If you love me, you will do what I have said, and my Father will love you. I will also love you and show you what I am like.





22The other Judas, not Judas Iscariot, [c] then spoke up and asked, ';Lord, what do you mean by saying that you will show us what you are like, but you will not show the people of this world?'; 23Jesus replied:





If anyone loves me, they will obey me. Then my Father will love them, and we will come to them and live in them. 24But anyone who doesn't love me, won't obey me. What they have heard me say doesn't really come from me, but from the Father who sent me.





25I have told you these things while I am still with you. 26But the Holy Spirit will come and help [d] you, because the Father will send the Spirit to take my place. The Spirit will teach you everything and will remind you of what I said while I was with you. 27I give you peace, the kind of peace that only I can give. It isn't like the peace that this world can give. So don't be worried or afraid.
Dear friend Average Joe,


God the Heavenly Father has given human beings when grown up to the age of maturity to the acceptance of marriage and sex between a husband and a wife to create a family bearing children into the generations of mankind on the earth.





Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. (Holy Bible Hebrews 13:4)





Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. (Holy Bible 1 Corinthians 7:2)





For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad. (Holy Bible 2 Corinthians 5:10)





By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just ruler);... Texts Bukhari Book #55, Hadith #657





God bless you in Christ Jesus mighty name.
humans have a power- to create.


but they have turned i, like all other sin, into something horrid.


why do you think its wrong?!


it is wrong to lust after anyone, and diseases as well as unwanted children can come from it.





if two people are in a committed relationship, why don't they get married?!





if he watches porn, then he is lusting after something- which is obviously sinful and wrong! he should not just go try to find a wife simply for that, he should focus on God and ask for His help to get out of his bad habits! besides, what wife would want a husband that isn't committed to her, and looks at those kinds of things!!!!





God did say so- but that's not the point. the point is what is right. your conscience should tell you that!





now ask yourself, REALLY think and ask yourself:


IS there any real societal damage that these activities cause?!


hopefully you can answer that question for yourself.


common sense should tell you why these things are wrong!


think about it...there's a lot more involved than just the physical actions. there's emotional and mental things that you can't even comprehend!





think of it like this-- a mom puts a cookie on the plate for her child, but tells them not to eat it until after they've eaten their other food.


why? you can answer that- everyone knows!


well, its the same way with sex. God gave it to us as a gift, a creating power- one that only He had, but He gave us a way to do it also.


He gave it to us and lets us decide what to do with it, even though He's told us what He wants--- because He knows what it best!


just like the mom gave her child instructions, but also free will to do what they chose, God gave us instructions, but lets us have the free will to do what we choose.





use it wisely- once you've ruined it, you can never go back.





hope this helps!
Because the 'she' is not your woman.





And you are never to see another mans erect penis.





I hear the voice of a spirit that claims to be God鈩?





He told me that that is where it begins.
I think sex during the wedding should be practised more widely.





Do they forbid sex before porn?





BTW, can you see Mount Fuji from there?
They're just jealous

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